Ableton audio clip sync support

OSC/PILOT General Discussion
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The goal is to have audio clips in Ableton sync with OSC Pilot so the on/off state of the clip is visually shown on pilot’s interface. Midi send setup is no problem, all good there for most things. The challenge is ensuring visual state in pilot stays sync’s with clip state in Ableton.

Of course can map on and off but Pilot does not recognize the true on off state like say in Push or an APC 40 etc.

My workaround was to place OSC Par on midi track in Ableton then trigger a follow action from the clip to a dummy midi clip for immediate launch (0.0.0) which was mapped in midi for a note (say C3) then place that note in the clip. In theory sends midi feedback to pilot via IP/MIDI messaging, but can’t get that working either. I saw ClyphX Pro option may help get this done, but want to see advice here first.

Can I get some help on how to do this, GPT is useless in helping get this done :slight_smile: and can’t seem to figure it out. I will mention I have loopmidi set properly (I think) with input and output and in Ableton reflecting input and output as well. Thouhgt there may be a infinite loop thing or glitch but not sure. Any help would be great

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I’ll reply to myself and hopefully this can help others in what I figured out, put a drum kit on a midi channel and and on follow actions, set to toggle, then just duplicate midi clips all playing C3 for a bar. Changed drum kit pads to reflect whatever loop i wish to trigger and it reflects back in OSC/Pilot.

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  • Figured out can use midimttr on ipad…

    rtpMidi has to show Network session from midimttr

  • Ableton must add all midi settings based on your PC showing your rtpmidi session(provided) directory is created from network session from midimttr

  • IP address in Project should specific port, xxxx and listen in 9000, if you want PAR to run too

  • midi settings in OSC/Pilot (ipad) must show session 1 from midimttr and remain on

  • click update in OSC/Pilot then will be picked up in ableton, from ipad as pc is just edit server.

  • note: all midi changes should be set from ipad, once network session1 is on, not pc

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[Solved] Keeping OSC/Pilot button lit after triggering an audio clip in Ableton

So, I thought I’d share this because it might save someone else hours of over-engineering.

I was trying to get OSC/Pilot buttons to stay lit after triggering an audio clip in Ableton. By default, once a clip plays through, Ableton reports it as stopped, and OSC/Pilot turns the button off. I went deep: building little Max for Live devices, routing through AbletonOSC, opening/closing ports, unblocking UDP, just to keep the damn thing lit.

Turns out, the answer is stupidly simple:

  1. Drop your audio clip into a slot in Ableton.

  2. In the Clip View, open the Follow Action section.

  3. Set Follow Action A to Follow Again.

  4. Change the clip’s Launch Mode to Toggle.

Now, when you trigger that clip, OSC/Pilot sees it as “on” and keeps the button lit until you trigger it again. No more clip finishing and instantly shutting the light off.

Honestly can’t believe I was messing with M4L patches and OSC routing for hours when it boiled down to a couple of clip settings :person_facepalming:.

Hopefully this saves someone else the headache!

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Thanks for sharing this. I was on vacation so couldn’t respond.

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Hi Malcolm,
Hope you had a good vacation! now I am focusing on getting OSC sends operational and setting up the visual linking with PAR. Testing the OSC message routing and ensuring parameter mapping aligns correctly on the PAR side, next step is validating that the visual triggers sync consistently across the link without latency drift, will see :slight_smile: