# ADDED: MIDI Feedback like Open Stage Control

**URL:** <https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209>\
**Category:** OSC/PILOT General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 14, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209 "2020-09-14T07:34:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![rmbwalsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@rmbwalsh](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/rmbwalsh)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/1 "2020-09-14T07:34:28Z")

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Hey, OSC/Pilot looks amazing - hoping this can take over from Open Stage Control for me but am I right in saying it doesn’t take MIDI return?

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**Author:** ![malcolm](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/malcolm/32/19_2.png) [@malcolm](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/malcolm)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/2 "2020-09-14T14:53:28Z")

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Correct, currently it only outputs MIDI, it doesn’t take return.

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**Author:** ![SirSickSik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@SirSickSik](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/SirSickSik)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/3 "2020-11-12T13:54:34Z")

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one more person would like this option overhere 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zengel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zengel](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/Zengel)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/4 "2020-11-15T11:44:31Z")

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me to 🙂

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**Author:** ![eggman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e99b99/32.png) [@eggman](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/eggman)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/5 "2020-12-17T22:51:32Z")

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I too would love to see this!

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**Author:** ![AisD](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/aisd/32/221_2.png) [@AisD](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/AisD)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/6 "2021-02-05T15:02:56Z")

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When is this midi feedback option will be released?  
and its name is osc/par? Will it cost more money?

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**Author:** ![malcolm](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/malcolm/32/19_2.png) [@malcolm](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/malcolm)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/7 "2021-02-06T17:49:43Z")

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Hey, no release date for when this feature will be added. It’s higher on my list but I still have other things to get done before it. It’s not OSC/PAR and it won’t cost more. OSC/PAR is a different product.

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**Author:** ![chaosmoon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/chaosmoon/32/153_2.png) [@chaosmoon](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/chaosmoon)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/8 "2021-04-05T00:26:44Z")

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i’d like to add to this request. For controlling applications such as VMix via (rtp)midi, feedback is really a necessity.

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**Author:** ![malcolm](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/malcolm/32/19_2.png) [@malcolm](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/malcolm)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/9 "2021-04-05T00:44:10Z")

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Ok yep this is super high on my list now. Once I’ve reconciled the macOS and Windows branches together I’m going to start work on this.

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**Author:** ![malcolm](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/malcolm/32/19_2.png) [@malcolm](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/malcolm)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/10 "2021-05-01T22:14:34Z")

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One design question for this. If you have a Button widget setup to send Velocity 50 when it’s pressed. Do you expect that Button to turn on only if it is sent a Note On MIDI message with Velocity \>= 50, or should any Note On turn on the button?

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**Author:** ![chaosmoon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/chaosmoon/32/153_2.png) [@chaosmoon](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/chaosmoon)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 7:11am UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/11 "2021-05-04T07:11:47Z")

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that’s a good question.

I’d say any note-on initially

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**Author:** ![malcolm](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/malcolm/32/19_2.png) [@malcolm](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/malcolm)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/12 "2021-05-16T19:04:17Z")

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If we’re being consistent with the way OSC values work, it’ll be based on the velocity. But maybe that makes less sense in the MIDI world. This feature is ready to release, I’m just waiting to get something fixed with our code-signing before I can release it.

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**Author:** ![chaosmoon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/chaosmoon/32/153_2.png) [@chaosmoon](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/chaosmoon)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/13 "2021-05-19T23:44:03Z")

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In midi world velocity \> 0 is a note on.  
A default of say \>= 50 will mean all midi controllers with velocity sensitive pads won’t register a note on unless hit hard.

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looking at the note out options [channel, pitch, velocity] i would say any returning velocity \> the output setting should trigger?

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**Author:** ![chaosmoon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/chaosmoon/32/153_2.png) [@chaosmoon](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/chaosmoon)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/14 "2021-05-19T23:48:54Z")

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\*edit

don’t worry 😉

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**Author:** ![malcolm](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/malcolm/32/19_2.png) [@malcolm](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/malcolm)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/15 "2021-05-20T14:39:20Z")

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> [@chaosmoon](#):
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> looking at the note out options [channel, pitch, velocity] i would say any returning velocity \> the output setting should trigger?

Ya that’s how I have it now (\>= though). If that makes sense I’ll leave it like that to start at least

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**Author:** ![chaosmoon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/chaosmoon/32/153_2.png) [@chaosmoon](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/chaosmoon)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/16 "2021-05-20T20:13:30Z")

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yes indeed \>=

looking forward to the update

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**Author:** ![SirSickSik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@SirSickSik](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/SirSickSik)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/17 "2021-05-24T21:38:05Z")

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for a button press with the velocity of notes, I’ld vote for an option to control the amount of glow. \>=velocity would just be the glow that’s set and below it would dim.

Otherwise you’re left with just two options:  
if you want to be able to play high velocities using the buttons, you’ll miss any possible low-velocity midi triggers that you might want to see.  
Otherwise if you want to see all the midi coming back, your only option is to set the button to play notes at velocity set to 1…which is often pretty useless…

Though, you might layer two buttons, where the bottom button would glow from velocity \>=1 and the other would be sending on a higher velocity. But this will also double the amount of button-widgets for all those you want midi-feedback on…

But, I think for most people it’s important to have midiCC feedback so they can switch between presets and see what the new settings are.

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**Author:** ![malcolm](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.oscpilot.com/malcolm/32/19_2.png) [@malcolm](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/malcolm)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/18 "2021-06-24T18:38:47Z")

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MIDI feedback/input is now available in pre-release build v1.5.2:

> [@OSC/PILOT Release Notes/Change Log](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/osc-pilot-release-notes-change-log/98):
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> 1.9.9 Release March 19, 2023 Available directly at: Windows: [https://software.mau5trap.com/OSCpilot-Installer-v1.9.9.exe](https://software.mau5trap.com/OSCpilot-Installer-v1.9.9.exe) macOS: [https://software.mau5trap.com/OSCpilot-v1.9.9.pkg](https://software.mau5trap.com/OSCpilot-v1.9.9.pkg) Two finger swipe from the top of the window no longer will enter edit mode on macOS or Windows. This will only allow entering the settings on iOS now. 1.9.8 Release March 7, 2023 Fix NDI crash on very old GPUs. Fixed text message not rendering properly on NDI widgets. Upgrade to NDI 5.5. Add Support for NDI to …

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**Author:** ![lsg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dc4da7/32.png) [@lsg](https://forum.oscpilot.com/u/lsg)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.oscpilot.com/t/added-midi-feedback-like-open-stage-control/209/19 "2022-12-23T22:02:00Z")

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Hi Malcolm,  
I saw the message from Chaosmoon about feedback for VMIX. Is this possible? I may have just configured things wrong to get the feedback. Specifically, I want to get feedback when a Fader in VMIX is moved, so I know where the value is at in OSC/Pilot. Also, the status of a mute button.

Thanks in advance!
